马云首次直播谈到当初办淘宝时的困难，想哭都哭不出来
Ma Yun talks live for the first time about the difficulties in Taobao. He can’t cry if he wants to
“在你们身上，我看到了20年前的自己。” 2020年5月9日，阿里日活动当天，马云在景德镇与当地年轻的陶瓷手艺人、创业者交流，他还饶有兴致的开了淘宝直播，第一次当了回主播。
“In you, I saw myself 20 years ago.” On May 9, 2020, on the day of ariri activity, Ma Yun was in Jingdezhen to communicate with local young ceramic craftsmen and entrepreneurs. He also had an interesting live Taobao broadcast and became the first anchor.
年轻人对于手工艺的热爱和坚持，都让他感慨，仿佛看到曾经的自己。他在现场给年轻人打气、鼓劲：“有梦想、有上进心的年轻人是世界的希望。”
Young people’s love and insistence on handicrafts made him feel as if he had seen himself. He encouraged the young people at the scene: “young people with dreams and aspirations are the hope of the world.”
10多位年轻的陶瓷手艺人跟主播马云聊了1个多小时。从艺术、梦想、创意、创业……他回忆起自己创业的经历，那时候创业、谈互联网，几乎没有人支持，但是“因为相信、因为热爱，然后不断地走下去”。
More than 10 young ceramic craftsmen talked with the anchor Ma Yun for more than an hour. From art, dream, creativity, entrepreneurship He recalled his experience of starting his own business. At that time, when he started his own business and talked about the Internet, almost no one supported him, but “because he believed, because he loved, and then he kept going.”.
在今天的淘宝直播间里，还有一位83岁的“年轻人”，他1959年来到景德镇，就一路扎根在这里，他说自己还年轻，还要热爱，还有很多事情去做。”马云为他“年轻”的发言点赞，“有未来的人是幸福的。”
In today’s Taobao live studio, there is also an 83 year old “young man”. He came to Jingdezhen in 1959 and took root all the way here. He said he was still young and still had to love and do a lot of things. ” Ma Yun praised his “young” speech, “people with a future are happy.”
大家在交流中畅所欲言，不少年轻人在交流中都提到一个关键词：“压力”。
Everyone spoke freely in the communication. Many young people mentioned a key word in the communication: “pressure”.
这让创业3次才成功的马云回想起了自己的经历：“2003年办淘宝的时候，压力太大了，每一天真是不知道怎么办，下个月的工资也发不出，最倒霉的时候，我连哭都哭不出来。我那时候想，等公司做大了压力就小了，没想到现在的压力比以前更大了，完全不是一个量级。”
This reminds Ma Yun of his experience: “when he started Taobao in 2003, he was under too much pressure. He didn’t know what to do every day. Next month’s salary couldn’t be paid. At the worst time, I couldn’t even cry.”. At that time, I thought, when the company becomes bigger, the pressure will be less. I didn’t expect that the pressure is greater now than before, which is not a magnitude at all. ”
马云用自己无数次失败的经历鼓励大家：“既然走了这条路，每天的困难都会很多。失败是正常的，成功是偶然的，但是你坚持了，才有机会把偶然变成一个真正的成功。”
Ma Yun encouraged everyone with his countless failures: “since we have taken this road, there will be many difficulties every day. Failure is normal, success is accidental, but if you insist on it, you will have the chance to turn it into a real success. ”
而在谈到直播时，马云称：直播才刚刚开始，路还很长。薇娅李佳琦付出的代价是不可想象的。每个行业都有艺术家，任何行业做到顶级的，都是艺术家。
When it comes to live broadcasting, Ma Yun said: live broadcasting has just begun, and the road is still very long. The price that Weiya lijiaqi paid is unimaginable. There are artists in every industry. Those who are top in any industry are artists.
